Bitte entschuldigen Sie mich daß ich in Englisch schreibe, aber nach 50+ Jahre in London iß es jetzt die Sprache die ich am besten verstehe ;o)
Does anyone have any clear understanding of the technicalities of German 'dual' nationality?
I am born in Germany of a German born mother and a German father (who came to Germany as a refugee after the War). We moved to London over 50 years ago but I always retained my German Nationality and passport as after the UK joining the EU, there was no requirement to have any other documents. We have effectively lived in the UK all of this time and have full UK lives (NHS, pension, UK taxation etc.) My parents have now passed away.
Naturally, with all the talk of Brexit, many of us are looking for peace of mind and a settled life in the UK. I have some cousins i n Germany, but have never been 'resident' there, nor have any pension/health/taxation there. I now have the UK 'permanent resident's card' and am considering Naturalisation as a UK Citizen, but I do not want to give up my German (EU) Citizenship.
There seem to be some technicalities in retaining German Citizenship if you apply to for naturalisation - and in some cases, you are considered 'having given up your German Citizenship' if you actively apply for one of another country without a 'retention permit' ("Beibehaltungsgenehmigung").
I am a little confused about some of the information I am reading, and the detail in the wording etc. and would be interested if anyone could clarify:
As a 'German born' person of a 'German born' mother, does this give me an automatic right to German Citizenship regardless to any rules about German dual Citizenship? (ie. will I always have 'the right' to retain or re-apply for German Citizenship in any situation.)
Will I still require this German 'retention permit' as a Dual National? (after Brexit if the UK were to leave the EU - currently not needed as the UK is an EU member). And is this permit restricted or is it only 'given' in certain circumstances (conditions etc.) 'Some wording on the German Diplomatic website suggests this (translated):
"Retaining German citizenship if naturalized in another state
Pursuant to Section 25 of the German Nationality Act (StAG), a German who acquires a foreign nationality on application generally automatically loses his German nationality, unless he has received prior written permission to retain German citizenship ("retention permit"). Please refer to the notes below.
Note: The automatic acquisition of a foreign nationality without application does not result in the loss of German citizenship. Anyone who has acquired German citizenship by birth, and at the same time by descent from a German parent, has both nationalities, without the need for an application for a retention permit."
.... but goes on to state this:
"Naturalization in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland before and after Brexit
The abovementioned rule also applies after the United Kingdom officially declares its wish to withdraw from the EU on 29.03.2017. Article 50 of the current EU Treaty. The United Kingdom is still a full EU member. You will not lose German citizenship if you acquire the British before leaving the country .
It is currently not foreseeable whether naturalization will require a retention permit following the formal withdrawal of the United Kingdom from the EU . If you apply for naturalization in the UK before leaving the country and it is foreseeable that you will only be naturalized after leaving the country, you should return to the responsible foreign mission in due course. We are happy to provide more information as new information becomes available.
As long as the United Kingdom is a member of the European Union, no maintenance permit can be issued. Corresponding applications are currently being rejected by the competent authority at a charge."
Lastly, I have heard that in some cases where someone has taken a dual nationality, that the German Government may treat these Citizens 'differently' in some instances with regards to pensions (German), National Service, Consular Assistance. Is this true, and is a 'dual' German Citizenship then 'different' to 'sole' Citizenship? This is not really so relevant to me as my residency has always been in the UK, but the 'Consular Assistance' aspect does interest me..
Please again excuse the fact I have written in English (my spoken German is near perfect), but as this is a very technical issue, I struggle a little with some of the quite 'complicated' and 'technical' German ;o)
Many thanks if anyone can help clarify some things here!